Pilato aramubaza muri aga magambo : " Koko si uri umwami w'abayuda ? " Yesu aramusubiza ngo : " Urabigambye " Pilato abwira abatambyi bakuru n'abantu kangari bari bahari ngo : " Ntaco ndi kubona kibi muri uyu mugabo co yohanirwa." ariko bagumya kuvuga ngo : " agomeshaga abaturage arikwigisha i Yudeya hose atangiriye i Galilaya kugeza hano ".